Colt Saa Serial Numbers 3rd Generation

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Update: After a bit more research, I was able to confirm that it was a 3rd generation SAA. I was able to get $1100 for it. I bought a few shooters including a nice Colt Official Police in.22 with the 4 inch barrel. I appreciate everyone's help and advice. This is an almost as new condition, 3rd Generation Colt Single Action Army revolver with 4.75” barrel, in.45 Long Colt caliber, made in 1996 (serial #S08137A). I have listed this. LSB#: 140706SR44 Make: Colt Model: 3rd Gen. Single Action Army Serial Number: SA 98501 Year of Manufacture: 1992-1994 Caliber:.45 Colt Action Type: Single Action Revolver With Side Loading Gate Markings: The left side of the barrel is marked “COLT SINGLE ACTION ARMY.45”. The left side of the frame is marked “PAT. 19, 1871 / JULY 2, 72 JAN. 19, 75”, “Rampant Colt” logo. These are original one piece walnut grips that were on an 1877 colt saa.these grips have been there and done that.the lamination that appears to look like a crack on the right side is not a crack.a few of the serial numbers of the gun are still visible in the channel on feb-28-13 at 17:47:01 pst. Blue Book of Gun Values. 2nd Generation Models were produced from 1956-1978 with serial number range of 0001SA-73000SA 3rd Generation Models were began in1978 with serial number range of 80,000SA.

SOLD FOR: $2,726.00
LSB#:
190107MB01

Make: Colt

Model: 3rd Generation Single Action Army

Serial Number: 84207SA

Year of Manufacture: 1977

Caliber: .45 Colt

Action Type: Single Action Revolver with Side Loading Gate Cylinder

Markings: The left side of the barrel is marked “.45 COLT.”. The top of the barrel is marked “COLT’S PT. F. A. MFG. CO. / HARTFORD CT. U.S.A.”. The left side of the frame is marked “PAT. SEPT. 19, 1871 / JULY 2,72 JAN. 19,75” and with the “Rampant Colt” logo. The underside of the frame at the grip frame is marked “84207SA”. The left front of the trigger guard is marked with a “VP” in a triangle and at the rear with “7”. The rear face of the cylinder is marked “357” (the cylinder has been rechambered for .45 Colt). The left of each portion of the grip frame is marked “84207SA” under the grip.

Barrel Length: 4 3/4”

Sights / Optics: The front sight is a tall quarter round blade fixed to the barrel. The rear sight is a square groove in the top strap.

Colt saa serial numbers 3rd generation

Stock Configuration & Condition: The grip is a one-piece smooth bone. The grip has no notable wear or damage, only light handling marks. Overall, the grip is in Excellent condition.

Type of Finish: The revolver is rust blued with case-colored frame and hammer.

Colt Saa Serial Numbers 3rd Generation

Finish Originality: The revolver has been professionally refinished by Peacemaker Specialists

Bore Condition: The bore is bright with sharp rifling. There is no erosion in the bore.

Overall Condition: This revolver retains about 98% of its metal finish. The ejector rod housing has a mark near the rear. There are scattered light handling marks. The screw heads are sharp. The markings are clear. Overall, this revolver rates in about Excellent condition as professionally refinished.

Mechanics: The action functions correctly and very smoothly with the Peacemaker Specialists Gunslinger Action Job. The cylinder lockup shows barely perceptible play. The hammer has ¼ and ½ cock safety positions. The trigger pull is crisp and breaks at 2 pounds. We did not fire this revolver. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards.

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This revolver comes in a brown suede zipper case. The case has scattered light wear with intact stitching and zipper, in about Very Good-Fine condition. Also included is a copy of the original Peacemaker Specialists invoice and pamphlet.

Our Assessment: The Colt Single Action Army handgun is a single action revolver with a revolving cylinder holding six rounds. It was designed for the US government service revolver trials of 1873 by Colt’s Manufacturing Company and adopted as the standard military service revolver until 1892. Although the SAA has been offered in over 30 different calibers and various barrel lengths, its overall appearance has remained consistent since 1873. Colt has discontinued its production twice, but brought it back due to excessive demand. This is a 3rd Generation Colt Single Action Army made in 1977. It has been sent to Peacemaker Specialists where it has been significantly modified with a rust blue finish, case-colored frame, action job, trigger job, new grip, cylinder re-chambered for .45 Colt, 11 degree forcing cone, beveled heel and toe on the grip and the revolver was test-fired and the sights adjusted. The revolver is in about Excellent condition with 98% of its new finish remaining. The bore is bright with sharp rifling and no erosion. All of the Colt SAA revolvers are collectable: 1st, 2nd or 3rd Generation, just to different degrees. This example has been customized by some of the best in the business and is a beautiful piece to behold. Please see our photos and good luck!

CA Legal or CA Private Party Transferable: This single action revolver CAN be transferred as a dealer sale in California and CAN be sold as a Private Party Transfer (PPT) at our Simi Valley shop. This does not apply to out of state residents.


Colt Saa Serial Numbers 3rd Generation

FIREARMS INFORMATION

History :The First Generation Colt Single Action Army revolvers were produced between their introduction in 1873 and WWII. Production resumed in 1956, and these guns are known as 'Second' generation Single Action Army revolvers, which are quickly identified by a 'SA' suffix at the end of their s/n, and continued through 1975. In 1976 a 'Third'generation of Colt Single Action Armys was introduced. On these, the 'SA' marking is moved to the front of the serial number.

These guns carried a varied number of names, from 1873 for the year it was introduced. The Peacemaker was another name used by the old west community. Single Action Army was what the military used when the guns were issued to the cavalry. The factory even today uses model designations of the alphabet and this model was the 'P'.

Calibers & Configurations :The .45 Colt chambering was by far the most popular, accounting for nearly half of the pre-WWII SAA's. The 'Winchester Centerfire' calibers – .44 WCF (44-40), .38 WCF (38-40), and .32 WCF (32-20) placed 2nd, 3rd and 4th in popularity; doubtless in part due to the fact that paired with an 1873 or 1892 Winchester they allowed the usage of the same cartridge in both rifle and revolver, simplifying supply logistics. The obsolete .41 Colt was the only other caliber produced in significant quantity, although a number of other chamberings were available on special order. Other calibers as 38 Special and 44 Special were among those included. Standard barrel lengths were 7-1/2', 5-1/2', and 4-3/4', with others available on special order.

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Special guns made without ejector rods or housings were called 'Sheriff's Models' or 'Storekeepers Models', and often had shorter than standard barrels. The SAA was used by the US military from it's introduction through the Spanish American War and Philippine insurrection. The original 7-1/2' barrel martial version is called the 'Cavalry Model' by collectors. Many military SAA's were refurbished by Springfield Armory or Colt for reissue with a shorter 5-1/2' barrel, and these are called 'Artillery Models' today. The Bisley model was introduced in the 1890's, and featured a redesigned grip and hammer and was designed for target shooting.

Later in the 3rd generation series the New Frontier was introduced with a more squarer top strap of the frame for accommodation of adjustable rear sights plus a ramped base and front sight.

Colt model 1873, also known as the Single Action Army, or the 'P' model at the factory.
This gun happens to be a 1st Generation

Barrels :The threads on the 1st and 2nd generation guns used a 20 thread per inch threads. On the later 3rd generation the barrel threads were changed to a finer pitch.

Cylinders :Also the cylinder ratchets were made differently, thus requiring other component parts that mate to and function with the cylinder to be also altered. The new cylinder eliminated the integral base pin bushing. When we refer to Old Style or New Style, we are actually meaning the Old Style as being either the 1st or 2nd generation, while the New Style as the 3rd generation.

Bolts / Cylinder Stops : The technical factory name for these parts is a 'Bolt' or probably a locking bolt. Many non gunsmithing persons call them a cylinder stop. This part was used unchanged until 1976 when the 3rd generation version was brought out. The original part number was #50976. After the change the part number was not changed, but the configuration of the part did. It was simply designated the 'Old Style' or the 'New Style'.


Listed below are the various styles encountered. Those of you who are trying to find a replacement part for the aftermarket 'Clones' may well have to take the firearm in question apart and compare the broken part with these CAD drawings of the Colt SAA. The Old Style and New Style are exact replacements for the Colt firearm.

The Modified Style was a composite of both including the thicker rear bottom of the NS plus the extended tail of the OS and was designed to fit about any model out there, whether it be a clone or a worn Colt. These Modified Styles cylinder stops WILL HAVE to be fitted to each gun. As far as we know, Wisner's Inc. are the only ones making this specific modified interchangeable part which should be able to be fitted to the clones. This modified version is made with the bottom section below the pivot hole thicker like the New Style, but with the tail shape and length of the Old Style and then the tail is lengthened by about .020. This configuration will fit most all the clones and of course even some of the worn old original SAAs.

Old Style
#50976 OS
New Style
#50976 NS
Modified Style
#50976 M


These bolts are made in a standard thickness of .152. Wisner's Inc. also makes an oversize thickness of .160 to be used on old worn cylinder locking notches.

All of these parts need to be hand fitted to the individual firearm. They are not just a drop in part, even the factory replacement parts were not. The RH tail need not be fitted, other than stoning the back side to allow it to function smoothly. The inner (LH) tail end needs to be fit to the hammer stud so it is timed to slide off the stud's angle as the hammer is cocked, just as the cylinder is rotated with the locking notch in line with the bolt at the full cocking motion of the hammer.

Once the bolt is in line with the cylinder notch, the bolt's tail slips off the hammer stud, the bolt's inner radiused face will drop into place with the hammer's stud now that the hammer is rearward, locked into the fire sear notch of the hammer.

Before all this can take place, the hammer has to have proper sear notches, the stud has to be correct for timing. The trigger also needs to be in good shape to mate with the hammer notch for proper timing. Also the cylinder base pin and bushing need to be fitted so not excess slop is there for endshake looseness.

Hands : The hands were also changed at the 3rd generation to fit the new cylinder ratchet notches as shown below.


Sear & Bolt Spring :
The sear and bolt spring is as flat, dual tailed spring held in place by one screw. It places tension on both the trigger and the bolt. The original thickness of this spring is .045. Aftermarket springs of a medium strength are made in .035 while a light weight version is made in .025. The .035 would be the common one used to lighten up the average shooter firearm.

Mainspring :The mainspring is a flat arched leaf spring that has a slight groove on the upper forward end for the hammer roller to ride in. This groove also keeps the mainspring centered in the frame so it does not shift sideways, allowing binding. The original material was .062 thick and machined to a taper (top to bottom) to make it like a buggy whip for the 1st and 2nd generation guns. The 3rd generation saw the same spring, but no taper, making it a heavier pull on the hammer.

Replacement mainsprings are usually made slightly long so they can be fitted to about any version, even the many copies or clones. If they are NOT properly fitted for these longer springs, when the hammer is pulled to the rear to full cock, the front tip section may bind in the inner arc of the hammer which will create a stiff resistance right at let-off, because it is being stopped by the mainspring front. This situation makes for a hard cocking firearm PLUS it can very well break the tip off the mainspring.


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